Need sometime to talk to...someone talk to me pleeaaasee

[DaveS79]

Afternoon chaps, chapess's

Some people probably raise eyebrows to this but just started self employed in London. Things all good been really appreciative of all advice had so far. Joint up with NIC. Touting myself going well getting offers of work but truth be told could really do with a phone number or two for people in the game primarily doing domestics am a bit green in some areas and running things by people every now and again would really be appreciated. Nothing imminently stuck with would just be nice to know had number or two should i get stuck most of my work pals background commercial/industrial and so has mine unfortunately. Who knows might be able to return favour in future someway or maybe pass the help on to someone else. 

 

[Sharpend]

The question is what brings you too this point? 
If you have the commercial background then wouldn’t think that the sparking bit is causing you problems? :C  

Or is it more technique, customers or ? 

 

[Andy™]

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[DaveS79]

samaritans 116 123

Hahaha very funny Andy. Top marks for sarky bxxxxxx award 

 

[DaveS79]

The question is what brings you too this point? 
If you have the commercial background then wouldn’t think that the sparking bit is causing you problems? :C  

Or is it more technique, customers or ? 

Probably bit of all the above really Sharpend. Got a price job coming up 3 bed new build. It's little things like how the heatings done nowadays, heat pumps and recovery systems haven't got foggiest

 

[binky]

heat pump will be installed by a specialist, so it's just a feed and controls to worry about, which wil be specced by specialist.

 

[DaveS79]

heat pump will be installed by a specialist, so it's just a feed and controls to worry about, which wil be specced by specialist.

Ok Nice 1 Binky I'll make sure they get the spec to me

 

[binky]

secret is to stay out of what you don't know, not that most of it is difficult if you can read a manual. 

Forgot to say, get things in writing, like an email, saying you will provide a cct for the heat pump as specced by the installer, but no  more than that. 

 

[DaveS79]

secret is to stay out of what you don't know, not that most of it is difficult if you can read a manual. 

Forgot to say, get things in writing, like an email, saying you will provide a cct for the heat pump as specced by the installer, but no  more than that. 

Cool will do that mate

 

[kerching]

And add that it doesn't include final   connection and commissioning 

 

[DaveS79]

And add that it doesn't include final   connection and commissioning 

 

[Sharpend]

Not sure it’s only specialists that install heat pumps? 
I did several air source heat pumps, and with a little reading and common sense they were pretty straightforward. :C  

The important thing to remember is be clear on what you are responsible for, whether it’s providing a supply only to filling and finishing any chases you do. After establishing this verbally confirm in writing. This will save a lot of headaches. 
 

Standard Heatings are pretty straightforward, follow the live through the circuit and all becomes clear. Take a look at Honeywell website for ideas. 
 

heat recovery is usually a supply via spur, and maybe a cable to a boost switch. 
 

This new build is it a one off or part of a major development? 

 

[ProDave]

Heat pumps are simple. Power and some controls. A little different to a gas boiler, but not much. Just read the manual.

MVHR just needs power and sometimes a control box.

I price new builds on 1 hour labour per point, and that usually proves accurate.

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

secret is to stay out of what you don't know, not that most of it is difficult if you can read a manual. 

Forgot to say, get things in writing, like an email, saying you will provide a cct for the heat pump as specced by the installer, but no  more than that. 

And add that it doesn't include final   connection and commissioning 

These are the pivotal points to any successful business venture IMHO....

NEVER EVER, EVER, EVER, do any work at all of any description without a written agreement of some sort...

Hard-copy / E-mail / Text-message....

Clearly identifying what you have agreed to do...

If you are not able to write a description, (itemised schedule), of the work you intend doing.....

Then you will struggle, (big- time), to work out when you have completed the job you've been asked to do, or when payment is now due! 

And as somethings are a bit unpredictable until to start opening things up or lifting floorboards etc...

Then some contingency statements may also be needed..

e.g.

Supply and Install new circuit for "AB&C".

Replace faulty "DE&F".

Test existing "GH&I" to verify compliance with B6761 guidance.

Investigate fault on "JK&L"  to identify cause of mis-operation / power tripping off.

Where up-to-date circuit drawings/certificates/charts, etc.  are not available then additional investigation will be required to identify the composition of each circuit.

Any significant anomalies identified during the course of the above work will require re-assessment and adjustments to the quoted costs.

Guinness

 

[kerching]

Keep a list of ALL variations to contact no matter how minor

if your schedule gets knocked back because the joiner has not built a studded wall  WRITE IT DOWN ALONG WITH THE DATE   If weather holds you back DO THE SAME.  at least you have some evidence when they start querying the invoice

be HELPFUL but don't be taken for a MUG who will work for nothing

 

[DaveS79]

Not sure it’s only specialists that install heat pumps? 
I did several air source heat pumps, and with a little reading and common sense they were pretty straightforward. :C  

The important thing to remember is be clear on what you are responsible for, whether it’s providing a supply only to filling and finishing any chases you do. After establishing this verbally confirm in writing. This will save a lot of headaches. 
 

Standard Heatings are pretty straightforward, follow the live through the circuit and all becomes clear. Take a look at Honeywell website for ideas. 
 

heat recovery is usually a supply via spur, and maybe a cable to a boost switch. 
 

This new build is it a one off or part of a major development? 

Hear you clear with getting clear what am responsible for and quoting for Sharpend. It's a new build the guy has built on his existing land

 

[DaveS79]

Heat pumps are simple. Power and some controls. A little different to a gas boiler, but not much. Just read the manual.

MVHR just needs power and sometimes a control box.

I price new builds on 1 hour labour per point, and that usually proves accurate.

Cheers nice one Dave. As long as I get it clear with them what supplying/quoting for got no problems learning on my feet trying best to avoid any surprises. As for pricing pretty much what I'll do myself

These are the pivotal points to any successful business venture IMHO....

NEVER EVER, EVER, EVER, do any work at all of any description without a written agreement of some sort...

Hard-copy / E-mail / Text-message....

Clearly identifying what you have agreed to do...

If you are not able to write a description, (itemised schedule), of the work you intend doing.....

Then you will struggle, (big- time), to work out when you have completed the job you've been asked to do, or when payment is now due! 

And as somethings are a bit unpredictable until to start opening things up or lifting floorboards etc...

Then some contingency statements may also be needed..

e.g.

Supply and Install new circuit for "AB&C".

Replace faulty "DE&F".

Test existing "GH&I" to verify compliance with B6761 guidance.

Investigate fault on "JK&L"  to identify cause of mis-operation / power tripping off.

Where up-to-date circuit drawings/certificates/charts, etc.  are not available then additional investigation will be required to identify the composition of each circuit.

Any significant anomalies identified during the course of the above work will require re-assessment and adjustments to the quoted costs.

Guinness

Cheers Special Location hear you mate will get as clear as possible written confirmation what I am responsible for and quoting for

 

[DaveS79]

Keep a list of ALL variations to contact no matter how minor

if your schedule gets knocked back because the joiner has not built a studded wall  WRITE IT DOWN ALONG WITH THE DATE   If weather holds you back DO THE SAME.  at least you have some evidence when they start querying the invoice

be HELPFUL but don't be taken for a MUG who will work for nothing

Noted Kerching cheers mate will be clear on quote about possible variations to drawings and plans. Not something had thought about being overly clear on but deffo needs to go in incase they start having drastic change of minds on their plans

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

Noted Kerching cheers mate will be clear on quote about possible variations to drawings and plans. Not something had thought about being overly clear on but deffo needs to go in incase they start having drastic change of minds on their plans

Some customers are just pain in the rear fickle, changing their minds frequently...

Others just genuinely forget to mention an extra bit that needs doing...

Or while doing a job you may notice an improvement that could be made..

ALL businesses have unforeseen circumstances and factors crop up...

Some can be covered by your initial costings.. Others have to be an increase charge to the customer.. 

e.g.  Shops ramp up their prices to cover losses due to shoplifting..

We may not get shoplifters, but at some point an item you supply may fail prematurely needing warranty replacement...

And although you might get a free replacement rom your supplier..

You have got to cover your labour and travel expenses for this replacement  work..

So make sure your initial costs cover a bit more than the bare minim assuming the whole job goes perfectly to plan.

Guinness

 

[Murdoch]

If there is a spec to quote against, make sure you refer too the version and date that your prices relate too.

If there isn't a spec, then write it up and make sure to be clear what is and what isn't included.

Time well spent and avoids payment issues down the road