New sockets trunking or chased?

[Manator]

I totally agree with you, it would also be unfair if we gave a local price of say

 

[kernow]

Hey guys i was just asking what a half day rate was?

Is that so hard to answer? :x

That cracked me up I will check where Kernow in Cornwall is ! Briiliant :^O :^O

Thanks for all the replies

 

[Doc Hudson]

The problem is you are asking a question that doesn't actually have a single answer. Electricians do not work for a nationalised industry on standard countrywide pay rates. Small business prices are more a supply and demand equation with adjustments for the actual installation environments and location.

Doc H.

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It's about as hard as saying what is half a days pay for working in a shop? One person may say

 

[kernow]

ok ok i won't ask about rates anymore. thanks for the info!

 

[phase]

You can try Electrician Prices - Estimates of the cost of electrical jobs. Take it as general guide. The condition of the installation may vary so will the price for the additional job as mentioned by above.

 

[Nicky Tesla]

As regards the sockets, if channelled, i fill with bonding just below the surface level, then use filler instead of skim as it gets much flatter than skim and its easy to sand and add extra. Plus any electrician worth his volt, can do a bit of fillering.

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

Hi As an electrician if a client requires say a new socket do you.

1. Offer this in trunking

2. Offer this to be chased in and left to be plastered

3. Offer to chase in and replaster yourself.

What would the price difference be on say a 4 meter spur with the above options?

thanks

I would look at how the other sockets and accessories in the property are wired...

then ask how the customer would like the new one installed...

Then work out a price based on the other two observations..

I would either look at an on-line wholesaler or pop to local B&Q / Wickes

get some rough costs for the materials..

e.g. cost of (100drum * 0.04) + a bit extra..

+

 

[davetheglitz]

Getting estimating right is difficult. Some can see a job and come up with a price straight away - I need to break down the job to various operations and price for each to get a total. My advice is as follows:-

What you install has to be spot on - so RCD protection either as an RCD fused spur feeding the rest or RCD on the whole ring/spur. Earthing and bonding should be commented on - unless it's just too dangerous to leave - cover yourself - but the customer is king and you have to make a living.

I only ever offer to rough fill (use plasterboard adhesive - brilliant stuff). If really trying to impress - finish with one fill! Customer can then rub it down to re-decorate.

Work out a charge/m for chasing and charge/unit fitting back boxes. Point out the upsides and downsides to the customer.

Similarly work out a price for trunking/surface boxes - taking into account bends and straights. Always takes longer than you think!

Materials - whatever mark up you think is fair (compare with B & Q and Focus for an idea).

Remember travel costs - Cornwall is a long county!

If you get it wrong - adjust it next time.

Say what you are quoting for and give options.

And as you're in Cornwall - someone down the pub will always be able to do it cheaper!

 

[kernow]

Hey interesting reading thanks - I know what your all on about that it is too hard to give a price without seeing the job - fair enough.

Ok to side step jut a bit what do you use to chase out a block wall? And is those box cutters much cop?

I personally use a 9 inch angle grinder with metal stone cutting blade. I Use 4 inch for tight corners. All 110 or battery powered. Then to tidy up a bolster and chisel. If I need to cut out the back box just drill it and knock out with small bolster. The dust it creates though is not too good but it is quick. The dust from a 9 inch grinder would probably be too much for a domestic situation ( with the furniture in the room etc) - these jobs I do are refurbishments and rebuilds.

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And as you're in Cornwall - someone down the pub will always be able to do it cheaper!

Very true!

 

[Zeespark]

You could always look at Spons pricing guides, though they are a little steep. A box cutter is no issue for block walls, though a different matter for brick ones.

Andy

 

[Nicky Tesla]

9" angle grinder in someones house that is occupied is not a good idea, it will make a right mess