Pir 2 Way

[Doc Hudson]

lol ha, N and E are a given my drawing skills are not that advaned

Never admit your drawing skills are good or that you have a CAD package, or this lot will want to see cable clips as well. It is perfectly acceptable to omit CPC's and neutrals from drawings if you are only looking at the switching side of circuit and it is intended for use by competent person's. Additional lines can sometimes just clutter a drawing. If of course we were providing a drawing that a DIY person would be using to do some replacement accessories etc, then it is probably best to include neutrals and CPC's

Doc H.

 

[Andy™]

If of course we were providing a drawing that a DIY person would be using to do some replacement accessories etc, then it is probably best to include neutrals and CPC's

Doc H.

even with a guide showing earths, many still dont connect them

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

I fitted a load of GU10 downlights today. They were double insulated with the silly little connector only 2 core flex can go in that had to be stripped with no more than 5mm of the inner core showing before the terminals. The label on them said 'Do not earth'. I had to terminate the Tw&e in a choc box with a flying lead out to the fitting. No wonder so many DIYers and handymen (& some sparkys) just cut off the cpc's and have 75mm of inner cores showing X(

 

[ProDave]

Agreed most downlighters are complete carp.

You try getting two 1.5mm cables in some of the terminals, one reason I rarely use 1.5

 

[Andy™]

i almost always wire downlights in flex. much easier to work with

 

[Electroglow]

Always use 1.0mm for domestic lighting cct

 

[batty]

JCC Led 7's are OK if you get the cables the right length and quite quick being pushfit. 1mm is best but 1.5 isn't to bad. They just take a bit of getting used to. The new Led 3's have gone back to the terminal blocks but they are a decent size terminal strip. I like them as they only need 80mm clearance and on a few jobs recently they have been ideal. They are supposed to be equivalent to a 35 watt halogen.