Price Guidance

[Dairyspark]

Hello again,

I've only ever done smaller jobs which were just £20 cash jobs as favours, but I have been asked to do a larger job by my standards anyway, probably every day for yous guys, the job is as follows

Fit 2 downlights in toilet cubicles (one each cubicle, using existing wiring)

Fit a single socket for a projector to get rid of the extension cable (break into the ring)

Run a supply for downlights to be fitted in the new bathrooms when finished (new supply running 30m in loft space)

It's a pub with a large function hall, function hall was rewired before opening, so new board etc.

Materials have been price £57 for cable etc. customer already has downlights

So my question is, on average what would you fine lot of gentlemen charge for such a job?

Thanks

Bobby

 

[ProDave]

Hourly rate times number of hours I expected it to take, which at a VERY rough guess might be 5 hours or so, but without seeing the job it's impossible.

The "extra socket for a projector" might take an hour. It might take a day, without seeing the job you just can't guess where and how you are going to run a new cable.

 

[Sidewinder]

How many D/L's?

How far from home?

What are your insurance costs & other overheads to undertake the works?

Me, mtls @ cost + 30%, for a job like this say 2 hrs plus 1 hr per point, & I class a point as a cable termination, so for the  toilets,2 hrs, for the socket 2 hrs.

How many new D/L's in the bathrooms?

If one supply point and 11 load points then 12 hrs.

Break this down into days then add 1 hr per day.

So say 18 hrs, then add 2 gives 20 that would be over 3 days so add 3 hours gives 23 @ my hourly rate, plus mileage @ my mileage rate back and fore the site for 3 days.

Simples.

However, I rarely get install work as I am too expensive, however, when I do, it, is, right.

Up to you how you price it.

However, remember you charge out rate, is NOT the rate you get paid at, there are a lot of overheads to take into account, insurance, phone, van, quoting,  paperwork, invoicing etc.

 

[kerching]

Just a thought....

Does anyone live in the Pub....residential Manager, Landlord etc?

If so then it may well come under Part P

Ahh!, just remembered, you are in Jockland are you not?

 

[Murdoch]

Ãnd don't forget to allow for tax and NI and your other business over heads

 

[Dairyspark]

Yes I live in Scotland which as we all know has no.......I won't rub it in

Socket for projector is going to be about a metre away on other side of the wall so the power cable from the loft space doesn't have to come out under the door anymore

New supply for new bathroom is going up the cable run from the local db into the loft space then it'll run all the way from front to back about 30m through umpteen joists which will require drilling (please advise on better option)

 

[Evans Electric]

You are employed are you not ?   So this is a "Foreigner "  I presume .    So you won't be taking out an insurance policy  or phoning HMRC to tell them you just earned  £100  on top of your wages . I assume you just go and do it . 

Yes I live in Scotland which as we all know has no.......I won't rub it in

Socket for projector is going to be about a metre away on other side of the wall so the power cable from the loft space doesn't have to come out under the door anymore

New supply for new bathroom is going up the cable run from the local db into the loft space then it'll run all the way from front to back about 30m through umpteen joists which will require drilling (please advise on better option)

Why would you be drilling joists in a loft space Bob ?

 

[Dairyspark]

Yes this is an extra curricular activity and I thought you weren't ment to jut leave a cable lying across the top of joists

 

[Sharpend]

You may not drill ceiling rafters as they are part of the roof structure and are prominent in the structural strength of the roof.

You could always tack to the 4x1 braces that are fixed across the top of the rafters (again do not cut these) alternatively you can fix your own additional 4x1 to tack too.

 

[kerching]

NEVER drill,or cut roff/truss timbers.

It can result in unpleasantness and "split level living"

Just concurring

 

[binky]

sounds like a good days work on your own, so at least £150ish

 

[ProDave]

DO get public liability insurance. Might be an expensive day otherwise if you put your foot through a ceiling.

DO tell hmrc you are self employed. You CAN be employed and self employed at the same time.

 

[Dairyspark]

The liability insurance I understand but if I notify hmrc is it really worth doing jobs on the side? I'm doing this to top up my income not to pay even more tax on a second job

 

[Murdoch]

The liability insurance I understand but if I notify hmrc is it really worth doing jobs on the side? I'm doing this to top up my income not to pay even more tax on a second job

Yeaha

Don't forget to buy some food for your horse.

 

[Dairyspark]

Thanks for the cowboy referrance lol

 

[Murdoch]

My pleasure

 

[ProDave]

The liability insurance I understand but if I notify hmrc is it really worth doing jobs on the side? I'm doing this to top up my income not to pay even more tax on a second job

Look up the fine for not declaring your income.

If you are employed and also self employed and only earn a little SE, then they usually just adjust your tax code to collect the tax due for SE.

Where it becomes a pain, is if you work SE one year and declare it, they will adjust your tax code. If you don't do any SE next year you will have still effectively paid tax on assumed earnings and won't get it back until the end of the year, probably by another adjustment to your tax code.

I am only SE now so no longer have that complication.

 

[NozSpark]

Surely this is a commercial customer who will need a receipt so that they can claim your bill as an expense to offset their own tax bill?

Surely this is a commercial customer who will need a receipt so that they can claim your bill as an expense to offset their own tax bill?

 

[Dairyspark]

I'm regretting asking this question lol,

The notifying hmrc part seems pointless, yes i understand there is a fine, but I could do this job tomorrow and then not do another one for 6 months, if I was doing regular jobs every week then yes I see the point

As for the reciept I have no idea lol

 

[NozSpark]

I done know of any commercial customer who wouldn't want a receipt TBH