Ring main.

[Adammyman]

I know. I have all test equipment but this is crazing me

Help

 

[Sidewinder]

Is the ring final wired correctly in the DB?

 

[Murdoch]

so back to the op, why are you at the site?

 

[Adammyman]

FINALLY I SORTED IT! The N was nicked and touching earth. All done. I did all tests to confirm. Rcd continuity loop end to end and IR. NO MORE COWBOY. Lesson learnt. Thanks everyone. Was just that simple. 

 

[Andy™]

NO MORE COWBOY.

. in not so sure about that statement... your probably claiming to be a sparky to your customer whilst coming here for basic advice

 

[Adammyman]

I think actually my boss is doing that. I'm just trying to do what he says 

 

[Sharpend]

Is this thread 'new age' electricians, get the tools and use t'internet to resolve all problems, whilst telling customer that you are entering details on worksheet pda for office? 

Somebody somwwhere has got to be reading this and do something about it. Why are trainees being expected to work unsupervised?what a sham we are in. 

 

[Andy™]

I think actually my boss is doing that. I'm just trying to do what he says 

whilst in breach of EAWR....

 

[Adammyman]

Well I blame my boss. I knew I would find it he just expects this kinda thing. I was never going to leave it unsafe and never leaving until it was resolved. So nothing was dangerous. However using the internet can't see nothing wrong with that. I never done that before. I told my boss get somebody here but he's totally useless and says crack on. Yes he expects me to know everything what can I do. End of the day I can't say much more nobody died. 

 

[Sharpend]

do you have a copy of the GN3? Might be worthwhile having a read to gain better understanding of the testing process which will then inturn develop your understanding of fault finding. 

 

[Adammyman]

No I don't have a copy. If not I will try get my 2391. I know the pass rate is low but for today I would like it!

 

[Murdoch]

The 2391 was replaced a few years ago.

 

[Sharpend]

You will now need 2394 & 2395. 

 

[binky]

Ok lesson learn't, you need to get your boos to train you better, and do lots of reading yourself. You could have left an earth out and installed a 20A MCB, not recommended as long term fix. However you have managed to find the actual fault - knicked cables on socket screws and back-box lugs is very common and always worth looking for.

 

[Tony S]

Non of this thread rings true

 

[ProDave]

It does when I use my bell box.
 

 

[Lurch]

I will point customers to this thread when they complain about my prices for correctly and safely finding and correcting faults.

There's a reason someone will always do it cheaper than someone who knows what they are doing.

 

[Adammyman]

What would the risk be if I had left one earth in? If everything was earthed? Could you plz explain the risk plz? Obviously it's sorted as I found the fault and corrected it but out of curiosity and just help understanding please. Thanks anyone? 

 

[Doc Hudson]

my ring main earths are two radials is it unsafe? Or just not to regulations? My L go in a ring and also my N. 

FINALLY I SORTED IT! The N was nicked and touching earth. All done. I did all tests to confirm. Rcd continuity loop end to end and IR. NO MORE COWBOY. Lesson learnt. Thanks everyone. Was just that simple. 

Can't quite figure out why this topic starts with a problem of a ring with broken earth continuity and ends up as an unable to reset RCD due to N-E short. Did you break the Earth yourself in an attempt to fix the RCD problem, or did you cause the RCD problem while trying to investigate the broken Earth. 

Doc H.

 

[Adammyman]

I solved the earth problem but then doing so I somehow nipped the N. had two faults