That "summation" supply Job

[Sidewinder]

Prodave,

Not quite the same as the non contact types though is it.

They are not in contact with the live conductor, they probably pick up the em field emitted.

 

[ProDave]

Steps,NO, yes, no, yes oh I don't know!

Prodave,

Carbon resistors yes the predominant failure mode is to fail o/c.

As is the same with a neon.

HOWEVER, do you want to take the risk?

Remember very often when GLS lamps fail the ionisation in the envelope allows such a current to flow that it trips the mcb!

Read my post above again (I submitted it before completing it)

the MAIN use of my neon screwdriver is as a sanity check to alert me in case, despite my testing, I have overlooked something and am about to undo a live wire. Better to find out with the neon, than when I touch the live wire I've just removed.

I contest, used in this way, a neon makes my job safer.

 

[ProDave]

Steps,NO, yes, no, yes oh I don't know!

Prodave,

Carbon resistors yes the predominant failure mode is to fail o/c.

As is the same with a neon.

HOWEVER, do you want to take the risk?

Remember very often when GLS lamps fail the ionisation in the envelope allows such a current to flow that it trips the mcb!

Read my post above again (I submitted it before completing it)

the MAIN use of my neon screwdriver is as a sanity check to alert me in case, despite my testing, I have overlooked something and am about to undo a live wire. Better to find out with the neon, than when I touch the live wire I've just removed.

I contest, used in this way, a neon makes my job safer.

 

[Sidewinder]

Prodave,

OK, however, I operate live working procedures even when proven dead until I have disconnected the conductor and physically shorted it to a reliable earth.

Comes from working on stored energy supplies.

 

[Sidewinder]

Prodave,

OK, however, I operate live working procedures even when proven dead until I have disconnected the conductor and physically shorted it to a reliable earth.

Comes from working on stored energy supplies.

 

[steptoe]

Prodave,OK, however, I operate live working procedures even when proven dead until I have disconnected the conductor and physically shorted it to a reliable earth.

Comes from working on stored energy supplies.

I always remove a known dead cable and short to a known earth.

isnt this how all electricians do it.?

 

[steptoe]

Prodave,OK, however, I operate live working procedures even when proven dead until I have disconnected the conductor and physically shorted it to a reliable earth.

Comes from working on stored energy supplies.

I always remove a known dead cable and short to a known earth.

isnt this how all electricians do it.?

 

[Sidewinder]

Dunno!

Just what I have always done, don't even remember why really!

 

[Sidewinder]

Dunno!

Just what I have always done, don't even remember why really!

 

[steptoe]

the only time I have ever seen a neon screwdriver fail is when it is actually used as a screwdriver,

then you end up with minute hairline cracks in the insulation,

this is I think where they have got the bad reputation from.

I never actually use it in this manner,

but each to their own I suppose,.

 

[steptoe]

the only time I have ever seen a neon screwdriver fail is when it is actually used as a screwdriver,

then you end up with minute hairline cracks in the insulation,

this is I think where they have got the bad reputation from.

I never actually use it in this manner,

but each to their own I suppose,.

 

[Andy™]

the only time I have ever seen a neon screwdriver fail is when it is actually used as a screwdriver,then you end up with minute hairline cracks in the insulation,

this is I think where they have got the bad reputation from.

I never actually use it in this manner,

but each to their own I suppose,.

maybe they should come with a point instead of blade?

 

[Andy™]

the only time I have ever seen a neon screwdriver fail is when it is actually used as a screwdriver,then you end up with minute hairline cracks in the insulation,

this is I think where they have got the bad reputation from.

I never actually use it in this manner,

but each to their own I suppose,.

maybe they should come with a point instead of blade?