Two DNO supply cables in the same head?

[Andy™]

This is not a joke. So you pull DNO fuses?? If you ever go to an older one, which smashes when gripped to remove, you`d be really glad of all the PPE - if you were using it!

one of the reasons i have insulated gloves

 

[niceguy]

Excuse me? I simply stated the facts and the law as I know them. I assume that`s as close to an apology as I can expect..........

Not really, just pointing out that why should we care? (see my post above).

This is not a joke. So you pull DNO fuses?? If you ever go to an older one, which smashes when gripped to remove, you`d be really glad of all the PPE - if you were using it!

Please dont teach me to suck eggs.

KME

Read ALL of my previous posts.

I assumed that this was an electricians forum??

As for my username, ironic.

NG

 

[Apache]

As for my username, ironic.

Clearly!

 

[sellers]

theres a lot of tension on this forum lately.

As always the what should happen and what does happen are 2 totaly different things. Everyone at some point has done something they are not technically supposed to do.

 

[sparkss]

hope you get them tested andy

i think its all safe fr us to say weather sparks or me DNO we know what we can and cant do, but sometimes we dont follow that, but it is important for joe blogs who comes along and reads this that they understand what can happen if it goes wrong and mainly that it is illegal. i think that is the important thing.

ill put togther our COP and a few extracts or things that can go wrong later, so if admin could put it somewhere so sparks and jb likewise can have an insite it to what its all about, ill also get the direct numbers for the DNOS for iso's

 

[Lurch]

As always the what should happen and what does happen are 2 totaly different things. Everyone at some point has done something they are not technically supposed to do.

But most of us don;t take a pic and post it on a forum asking what it is.

 

[Badger]

hope you get them tested andy i think its all safe fr us to say weather sparks or me DNO we know what we can and cant do, but sometimes we dont follow that, but it is important for joe blogs who comes along and reads this that they understand what can happen if it goes wrong and mainly that it is illegal. i think that is the important thing.

ill put togther our COP and a few extracts or things that can go wrong later, so if admin could put it somewhere so sparks and jb likewise can have an insite it to what its all about, ill also get the direct numbers for the DNOS for iso's

whats an iso?

 

[Andy™]

hope you get them tested andy

whats the proper method of testing? they are visually checked before use and stored in their own protection (not in bottom of tool box).

little guidance card that comes with them has not information of any use

 

[sellers]

But most of us don;t take a pic and post it on a forum asking what it is.

True, but he'll know for next time. O)

 

[Badger]

[quote name='Andy

 

[sparkss]

iso - isolation be it switch or just fuse being pulled.

we have ours go for a dialectric strength test every 3 months (depending on what class glove they are)

air tests

and visual each time before use

my work ones also are double coated with red and then white so you can see the defects if there are any.

but my other pair i use are just plain white ones,

im yet to find anywhere that does test them apart from the labs at DNO'S ours go to tipton or hams hall to be done,

 

[wozz]

when i was taught to pull fuses a couple of years ago the only time they said wear PPE was when working with cast heads.

 

[sparkss]

in the central networks area east / west for plastic cut outs in perfect condtion min of

long sleve nomex tee shirt with nomex bottems

or

nomex cover alls

blast goggles / full face visor

class 00 insulated gauntlets with leather protectors

weather its like that each day is another story.....

:_|

but like i said only takes a split second...

arc = no face / burns

shock ect

 

[sellers]

may i ask sparkss, with your standard domestic cutout, whats the chances of major arcing with no load and under what conditions may it happen?

 

[sparkss]

quite low.... BUT that only if there is no existing fault on our side, loose connection inside, a fault happning somewhere on the network at the time of pulling or even switching of the HV so many diffrent scenarios, to say a big or small chance, you should always be carrying out a risk assesment before you go ahead and do anything. we have 2 before even stepping foot out of the van.

they always say PPE as a last resort and all other methods of control should be in place to have the risk so low that PPE is not needed.

i dont know if anyone has seen the lucy cut outs used in bolloards?

they have a lever that disconects the fuse before the cover is openend therefore containing an arc in its houseing if it happens.

that is a method of control that has been used so that PPE is not needed.

each job should always be looked at as induvidual, in our industry many sparks ect get to used to what they are doing and take risks. but i cannot say more that everything is diffrent.

 

[kme]

Thanks for the great info mate.

I for one would be interested in the info you mentioned in an earlier post.

KME

 

[kme]

Read ALL of my previous posts.I assumed that this was an electricians forum??

As for my username, ironic.

NG

Assumed?

The word which makes an ass of u or me ?

As I said previously, IF you`d read MY posts - All manner & level of technical expertise use this forum, from complete novices to people far more qualified than you or I.

YOU may know - I did not suggest otherwise. But please don`t "assume" everyone knows as much as you do.

KME

:coat

 

[sparkss]

Thanks for the great info mate. I for one would be interested in the info you mentioned in an earlier post.

KME

ill have it sorted when i get back, have a drug den to go to for disconnection now :^O

going to be a long night :_|

 

[green-hornet]

Well well well.

I never even bothered to look at this post, as previously we have seen that when you find two cables in a cutout it is normally a loop in/out.

The replies appear to have been lost in transit, with some people trying to score some kind of points.

This forum is about views, to which we all have our own, if you dont agree, just state facts.

sparkss works for a dno and knows his stuff, anyone who thinks they can work on high voltage take note of what he has said.

I have seen the damage a simple flashback on a 3 phase board can do.

We once took a picture of a mate of ours looking through the hole in his hand.

 

[Apache]

We once took a picture of a mate of ours looking through the hole in his hand.

Do you have it? If you do post it - some people might think twice that way!