would you issue a danger notice?

[kme]

Called out to a customer, who has a broken pendant (yeah, I know : headbang )

However, I find that the fitting is switched on the neutral; although the two singles in the back box are both red..........

So, would you:

a: Issue a "danger notice" to the householder?

b: Send a letter explaining the fault, and explaination of need to resolve?

c: Other?

KME

 

[Theorysparky]

b,,,,

how long has it been there ???? years

has it caused a problem before ?????

send a letter explaining why its dangerous,how to resolve it and approx cost

you could isolate at the cu only for them to switch it on again

 

[tom1]

so it has an acsessable exposed live conductor all the time?

is that right mate?

 

[milo]

are you sure they are switched on the neutral and not going through a joint box?

 

[Andy™]

whilst not a permanent fix, you could use a lamp holder where the pins are disconnected when there is no lamp. IIRC, Hager are like this

 

[PC Electrics]

According to the ESC it's a code 1.

http://esc.org.uk/pdfs/business-and-community/electrical-industry/BPG4_08.pdf

top of page 12

IMO that warrants a danger notice.

 

[ianmacd]

Its more of an issue with a ES rather than a BC fitting. I assume the wiring isn't in the rose so easily fixed?

 

[steptoe]

IIRC a switched N is a code 1,

you now have an artificially induced broken neutral.

deffo a warning,

but I suppose discrepancy is required.

 

[kme]

are you sure they are switched on the neutral and not going through a joint box?

Yup. Certain.

BTW, can you explain where you`re going with that? I`m a little confused......

Tom: Yes mate. That IS what I`m saying.

Andy: I considered that, as a temp. fix. BUT, it was pure luck that this guy called me rather than change it himself, and he says he`d have swapped the flex in the rose........ bad day explode

Ian: there are 3 singles into the rose; and the CPC looks cloth covered; although I can get an acceptable reading from it (didn`t do IR though, there IS an RCD in line, which does work in spec.)

Theo: gawd knows.

PC / Albert: That was my thinking also; I`ve already intimated to the customer that I`d prob. issue an XNN...

Thanks to all of you who replied. I appreciate your input.

 

[Evans Electric]

Issue a Danger Notice , its up to the owner to take responsibility ,not you , we are not the fifth emergency service. Needs investigation deffo, but you have to be paid for your services, could even be the incoming main reversed, I've had that a couple of times.

 

[kme]

could even be the incoming main reversed, I've had that a couple of times.

T`isn`t, though Deke, it is deffo the lighting.

If install was polarity reversed, I`d have isolated, called DNO, AND issued XNN on the spot.

But I know what you`re saying - Notice issued. Thanks to all those who replied

KME