Earthed through gland plate screws only

[jimleen]

Banjo on the inside, always. When I see one on the outside of an enclosure I have the same feelings as the OP. Let's face it, if neither way is wrong, they must both be right. And if I could be bothered I'd come up with a duelling banjoes gag!

 

[green-hornet]

Banjo on the inside, always. When I see one on the outside of an enclosure I have the same feelings as the OP. Let's face it, if neither way is wrong, they must both be right. And if I could be bothered I'd come up with a duelling banjoes gag!

ROTFWLROTFWL

I can hear the music now :^O

 

[steptoe]

I also use roofing bolts - either 12mm , with a bent banjo if there`s room within the enclosure; or bolted through 50mm if there isn`t. Do I give any serious thought or concern to the dis-similar metals concerns? Honestly, no - I don`t. If we did, we`d be questioning so many things throughout the day, we`d get sod all done!

My opinion, FWIW

KME

I just get on with it.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Uzae_SqbmDE?feature=oembed

 

[Sidewinder]

Try this, more my type of music!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8H-Y1xZW6s&feature=related

paul

 

[kme]

As to this "banjo in or out" malarkey......

Depends. Primarily on the material I`m securing to. Some of the ABS plastics, adaptable boxes, etc have flimsy edges; especially to the 20mm holes. If the banjo is on the inside, the gland itself can rip through the hole - not good.

SO, if its soft plastic, or it gives me the "antsy" feeling - I`ll put the banjo external.

In fact, more than once I`ve put one inside & out, `cos I didn`t trust the edges of the hole.

KME

 

[Sidewinder]

KME,

I carry some big brass washers for just this scenario!

Or, I'll mod a banjo into a washer!

Paul

 

[green-hornet]

has anyone used those new earth lugs yet? if so are they any good? they look easier to use than banjo's and faster.

 

[kme]

I`ve used "piranha" nuts -ruddy brilliant in certain situations - I always carry a couple - just in case

Or are you on summat else, mate?

 

[green-hornet]

I`ve used "piranha" nuts -ruddy brilliant in certain situations - I always carry a couple - just in case Or are you on summat else, mate?

thats what they are I have seen them but never thought to ask for them but I did think when I first saw them that they looked very easy to use, and probably more reliable.

 

[kme]

Crackin` Grommet.........More cheese? Guinness

erm....... Guinness

oops. Guinness

Paul: sorry mate. Me & my Guinness farts`ll see you tomorrow] ] Guinness ] ROTFWL

 

[Sidewinder]

Burp....

My Carlsberg burps!!!!!!

 

[Evans Electric]

This banjo business is rather strange, who taught you guys to fit them on the inside ? I ,and every sparks I've ever met ,(and thats a lot) were taught to fit them on the outside,the reason given (confirmed by NICEIC ) was to increase the surface area of the gland .

So looking back over many years ,from the Longbridge Car Plant , British Steel, NHS, Local councils,MOD, REME, British Gas, MEB , British Telecom, British Rail, B,ham University, GEC and Gulf Oil , to name a few, all had banjos on the outside.

Every contractor ,big or small , that I ever worked for had banjos on the outside .

I must have worked with many ,many sparks , all of them fitting banjos on the outside.

So when did this "Inside" business start. Is that how its taught in college now ?

Is it the accepted method now?

 

[steptoe]

This banjo business is rather strange, who taught you guys to fit them on the inside ? I ,and every sparks I've ever met ,(and thats a lot) were taught to fit them on the outside,the reason given (confirmed by NICEIC ) was to increase the surface area of the gland . So looking back over many years ,from the Longbridge Car Plant , British Steel, NHS, Local councils,MOD, REME, British Gas, MEB , British Telecom, British Rail, B,ham University, GEC and Gulf Oil , to name a few, all had banjos on the outside.

Every contractor ,big or small , that I ever worked for had banjos on the outside .

I must have worked with many ,many sparks , all of them fitting banjos on the outside.

So when did this "Inside" business start. Is that how its taught in college now ?

Is it the accepted method now?

maybe Im older than I like to think.

:_|

 

[Evans Electric]

What do you mean ,Steps ? Are you an "Insider" or an "Outsider" ?

 

[steptoe]

What do you mean ,Steps ? Are you an "Insider" or an "Outsider" ?

Ive been an outsider all my life,

says it all really........

 

[Evans Electric]

Well, me too, I think, Steps. :Salute :good night:

 

[oldtimespark]

electricians paint scraper

 

[Evans Electric]

Anyone like to come back with an answer to the " Banjo,s on the inside" business, as said , AFAIC they should be on the top to increase the cross sectional area of the gland, but then I am merely an "old Phart" who has probably been at it for far too long.

 

[Andy™]

Anyone like to come back with an answer to the " Banjo,s on the inside" business, as said , AFAIC they should be on the top to increase the cross sectional area of the gland, but then I am merely an "old Phart" who has probably been at it for far too long.

if there on the top, the banjo will have a greater area in direct contact with the brass. below, and its up against the (usually) galv steel locknut.

cant really see a major problem with this though

 

[Riggy]

Anyone like to come back with an answer to the " Banjo,s on the inside" business, as said , AFAIC they should be on the top to increase the cross sectional area of the gland, but then I am merely an "old Phart" who has probably been at it for far too long.

I guess old habits die hard. I served my time, and worked for 25 years in a plaster/plasterboard factory. Every panel/DB had a 3" plus layer of dust on top. If the banjos were on the outside you couldn't see them!

Most of my work now is on farms, similar problem, different material!

I'll continue putting mine (mostly) on the inside, thanks!